Are You Desiring a Community of Fun Embodied Playmates on Your Spiritual Path?

Secrets of InterPlay for Spiritual Sojourners 2024 Online

Deepening Our Spiritual Practices & Connections in the Playful Pool
Lisa Laing and Wai-Chin Matsuoka


2 Weekends

January 6-7 & 13-14

Saturdays 11-5pm ET

Sundays 3-6pm ET

This Secrets of InterPlay for Spiritual Sojourners is designed to learn and utilize the Tools and Forms of InterPlay for those of us with the desire to embody, deepen and enrich our spiritual practices, whatever they may be.

We will play in the fertile field of imagination, story, song, breath, voice, movement, stillness and witness, held in a container of supportive community.

We desire to cultivate an atmosphere of humor, laughter, silliness and fun while we play soulfully together. This program will offer opportunities to play with text (sacred & profane), poetry, ritual, as well as our own creative expressions while learning the “sneaky deep” InterPlay practices.

The Secrets of InterPlay for Spiritual Sojourners will give you direct experience in many aspects of the InterPlay system. It is also an important element of the InterPlay Life Practice Program for Spiritual Sojourners offered Online through several weekends TBD in 2024. You may also attend the Secrets of InterPlay for Spiritual Sojourners as a stand alone event.

Schedule (all times ET)

2 Weekends (15 hrs).

January: 6-7 & 13-14

Saturdays 11-5pm ET

Sundays 3-6pm ET

Program Cost

The Secrets of InterPlay is $400 tuition (online). Should you continue on to the Life Practice Program, your Secrets tuition will apply toward the cost of the full program.

Repeating the Program
Anyone who has previously completed the Secrets of InterPlay is eligible for the $300 repeaters rate.

Financial Assistance
Diversity is a great gift in the InterPlay experience. Based on our commitment to Racial Equity and Transformation (read our statement here) and our understanding of other structural and personal inequalities that exist, Body Wisdom is committed to making our programs financially accessible.

Financial considerations need not be a barrier to your participation. Financial support and flexible payment plans are available. Please email Angela at or feel free to speak to one of the leaders of this program.

Continuing Education Credit
Up to 55 CE credits (15 for Secrets weekend & 40 for LP follow up sessions) for various healthcare and allied healthcare professions are available for those practicing throughout the U.S. and for educators only practicing in Illinois. CE pre-registration is required before the start of your event.
Email Jane directly at
(not the office) to APPLY for CEUs. There is a charge of $25-$40 per program. CEUs are offered through Continuing Education Institute of Illinois or R. Cassidy Seminars.

To Make Tuition Payment or Deposit
Note for Office

Cost: $400 ($300 for repeaters) Cost included in full Life Practice Program tuition

Registration/Information: Registration Questions, email: Financial assistance, email:


Online Secrets/Life Practice Programs

Lisa Laing
Lisa Laing is a Certified InterPlay Master Leader, fitness professional and Certified Cancer Wellness Specialist. She incorporates the practices and forms of InterPlay in each of these aspects of her life, including leading an ongoing weekly group of InterPlayers in CT and beyond for over 20 years. Lisa has brought InterPlay to incarcerated women at York Correctional Facility in CT, interdenominational clergy groups, as well as students at The Juilliard School, Yale Divinity School and Southern CT State U. Lisa co-developed a cancer wellness group, Hope Is Power, very much informed by InterPlay. Lisa co-leads the InterPlay Life Practice Program and Secrets of InterPlay in the Northeast US with both Katrina Browne and CC King and is an InterPlay Leader Training Mentor. Lisa and CC hold admin responsibilities for the Northeast US Region. She has served on the InterPlay Body Wisdom Board. "I am blessed to be a part of this diverse world-wide community of creators, instigators, healers, nurturers, adventurers, connectors, huggers, grace-operatives, activists, artists; InterPlayers All!"
Wai-Chin Matsuoka

Wai-Chin is Singaporean Chinese, who was transplanted to the U.S.A. 35 years ago when she came to do her graduate studies, and met her American-Japanese husband.

She’s a spiritual director who comes alive whenever there’s an opportunity to midwife what’s ready to be birthed. She’s particularly experienced in bringing forth new life from the ashes of change and transition. Mentored and credentialed as an Ensoulment Coach, and a certified InterPlay leader, Wai-Chin loves to weave spirituality, somatic practices, soul-tending and InterPlay tools and forms into a tapestry of Love and Play. She especially enjoys shaping these tapestries into retreats, ongoing Body Wisdom Playgroup, and soul care workshops specifically for social reform activists.

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